<div dir="ltr"><div>Both really. But the major risk comes from it being a US corporation with HQ in Maryland, not too far from you know who...<br></div>I find it hard to believe that Bullrun wouldn't target them too, specially given their market share and the likely close relationships between the principals and USG.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Lee Azzarello <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lee@guardianproject.info" target="_blank">lee@guardianproject.info</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Do you see the problem as Silent Circle's incorporation having been<br>
filed in the USA or that many of the partners are American nationals?<br>
<br>
-lee<br>
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On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Peter Villeneuve <<a href="mailto:petervnv1@gmail.com">petervnv1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I agree that they'll likely continue to use Tivi and just rebrand it.<br>
> They're very good at FUD marketing and not so good at releasing their<br>
> complete source code.<br>
><br>
> More importantly, SilentCircle suffers from a major Achilles heel that will<br>
> be difficult to overcome.<br>
> Quite simply, they're an American company, and that means they're subject to<br>
> National Security Letters just like Lavabit.<br>
> Plus, the CEO is a former Navy SEAL, which in itself means nothing, but does<br>
> hint at close ties to the "usual suspects..."<br>
> Yes I know they have Zimmerman and Callas on board, and while I would trust<br>
> them given their history, who's to tell me the company hasn't been<br>
> infiltrated à la Bullrun?<br>
> Who exactly is behind this company? Where did the millions in marketing come<br>
> from?<br>
><br>
> Perhaps I'm being overly paranoid, but to me, nowadays, security/privacy and<br>
> US company in the same sentence sounds like an oxymoron.<br>
><br>
> As usual, it all boils down to transparency and trust.<br>
> What are other people's thoughts on this?<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:15 PM, <a href="mailto:ShootAKite@riseup.net">ShootAKite@riseup.net</a><br>
> <<a href="mailto:ShootAKite@riseup.net">ShootAKite@riseup.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I speculate Blackphone will be TiviPhone branded with Silent Circle<br>
>> similar to the current Silent Circle mobile app.<br>
>><br>
>> my source:<br>
>> Existing Silent Circle app uses tiviengine<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://github.com/SilentCircle/silent-phone-base/tree/master/silentphone/tiviengine" target="_blank">https://github.com/SilentCircle/silent-phone-base/tree/master/silentphone/tiviengine</a><br>
>> <a href="http://www.tivi.com/en/tech/voipsoftcrypt.php" target="_blank">http://www.tivi.com/en/tech/voipsoftcrypt.php</a><br>
>><br>
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