<div dir="ltr">Harlo, <div><br></div><div>I think it would be wise to distinguish between what is a standard in our internal data representation from what is displayed to users. I've emailed a friend of mine with 30 years of experience in geographic information systems (including ESRI, the most prominent commercial GIS) and, as I suspected, his views align with the majority of things you see on the web related to display of earth-positioning data: lat/long is the order people are used to seeing.  </div><div><br></div><div>I looked at the GeoJSON website and see that they use terminology not familiar to most normal people, but probably ingrained in actual working cartographers (because it maps well to the idea of the Cartesian plane): "easting" and "northing". In an absolutely hilarious error, this page on Wikipedia describes the meaning, and how to display.....then get's it backwards because....well, because that's what people expect: latitude, followed by longitude:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easting_and_northing">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easting_and_northing</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>By the way, who are "Elastic Search" and why is that of overriding importance to us?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature">David M. Oliver | <a href="mailto:david@olivercoady.com" target="_blank">david@g</a><a href="http://uardianproject.info" target="_blank">uardianproject.info</a> | <a href="http://olivercoady.com" target="_blank">http://g</a><a href="http://uardianproject.info" target="_blank">uardianproject.info</a> | @davidmoliver | +1 970 368 2366</div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Harlo Holmes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:harlo.holmes@gmail.com" target="_blank">harlo.holmes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Actually, the order is Lon, Lat, to conform to GeoJSON standards (which is required by Elasticsearch.)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:52 AM, David Oliver <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@guardianproject.info" target="_blank">david@guardianproject.info</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">Agreed - the order is LAT, LONG<div><br></div><div>more info:Â <a href="http://www.geomidpoint.com/latlon.html" target="_blank">http://www.geomidpoint.com/latlon.html</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div>David M. Oliver |Â <a href="mailto:david@olivercoady.com" target="_blank">david@g</a><a href="http://uardianproject.info" target="_blank">uardianproject.info</a>Â |Â <a href="http://olivercoady.com" target="_blank">http://g</a><a href="http://uardianproject.info" target="_blank">uardianproject.info</a>Â | @davidmoliver |Â <a href="tel:%2B1%20970%20368%202366" value="+19703682366" target="_blank">+1 970 368 2366</a></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Svetlana Chirkova <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:schirkova@gmail.com" target="_blank">schirkova@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi guys, just wanted to confirm that standard/convention of gps coordinates ordering (lat,lon vs lon,lat)<br><br></div>i always thought it was lat, lon (<a href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7309121/preferred-order-of-writing-latitude-longitude-tuples" target="_blank">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7309121/preferred-order-of-writing-latitude-longitude-tuples</a>)<br><br></div>but j3m is lon,lat at the moment.<br><br></div>just wanted to confirm that:<br></div>- it's suppuposed to be 'long,lat'<br></div>- j3m will continie to be 'long,lat'<br><br>?<br><br></div>where am i...<br><br>Thanks!<br></div>
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