[guardian-dev] Pixelknot v0.3-rc1
Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
ei8fdb at ei8fdb.org
Fri Apr 26 08:56:50 EDT 2013
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Hi Abel,
Thanks. So the problem may not have been device processor architecture?
I just need to find someone to test it with :)
Bernard.
On 26 Apr 2013, at 13:35, Abel Luck wrote:
> The build your running now is a debug build, whereas I think the
> previous was a release build.
>
> It is possible that could explain the discrepancy. I suppose I should
> upload a release build instead, since that's closer to the actual build
> that users will get.
>
> ~abel
>
> Bernard Tyers:
>> Hi Abel,
>>
>>
>> Thanks for sending this.
>>
>> I've uninstalled the rc-1 version and installed rc-2.
>>
>> I can't say why, but from a really quick test PK is not (yet!) crashing. I have uploaded a photo to Flickr and to dropbox successfully.
>>
>> I haven't had a chance to desteg them yet, but certainly so far its working.
>>
>>
>> I haven't installed/uninstalled anything (apart for rc-1) since I tested it before, so I can't say what went wrong.
>>
>> I'll test it more thoroughly this weekend.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Bernard
>>
>>
>> Abel Luck <abel at guardianproject.info> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bernard,
>>>
>>> Please uninstall PixelKnot from your device, then download the new
>>> version from this page:
>>>
>>> https://rink.hockeyapp.net/apps/124e7acf873890cf33afcc2087f831e4/
>>>
>>> It is exactly the same as the old version, but includes reporting code,
>>> so hopefully we can troubleshoot those crashes.
>>>
>>> When it does crash, restart the app, it will ask you to submit the
>>> information, please click yes :)
>>>
>>> ~abel
>>>
>>> Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb:
>>>> Abel,
>>>>
>>>> If you could I'd appreciate it. That'll answer why the rc-1 version
>>> is crashing on my Intel processor UE.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Bernard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 24 Apr 2013, at 15:36, Mark Belinsky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That seems like a pretty solid feature to have in the whole suite
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> @mbelinsky | guardianproject.info | phone: +1-347-466-9327 | ostel:
>>> 1003 | pgp: 0xEFBFA7278D8EFFDA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Abel Luck
>>> <abel at guardianproject.info> wrote:
>>>>> Ah, good to know.
>>>>
>>>>> Shall I push a little patch to PK that adds a log sharing option?
>>>>> Jenkins would create a new test build right away.
>>>>
>>>>> ~abel
>>>>
>>>>> Nathan of Guardian:
>>>>>> Alogcat no longer works for newer versions of Android that require
>>> new permissions or root for log access.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abel Luck <abel at guardianproject.info> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bernard,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you install the app aLogcat [1], then after PK crashes you can
>>> open
>>>>>>> it up and send us the log file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~abel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1]:
>>>>>>>
>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jtb.alogcat&hl=en
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb:
>>>>>>>> Hi Harlo,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll try and find log files, but I am not sure what extent
>>> Android on
>>>>>>> these devices log app crashes..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can certainly find logs for the issue where the steg'ed
>>> filesize is
>>>>>>> 0 B when its e-mailed as Kaiten creates a debug log.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22 Apr 2013, at 23:48, Harlo Holmes wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I suspect it has to do with the architecture, but I would be
>>> very
>>>>>>> curious to see your logs. I don't have any devices like yours to
>>> test
>>>>>>> on right now, sadly. Do you have the capability to do log your
>>> output
>>>>>>> and send it to us in a text file or post it somewhere on pastebin?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Harlo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>> Research Fellow, Head of Metadata
>>>>>>>>> The Guardian Project
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pgp: 0xA4469630
>>>>>>>>> twitter: @harlo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
>>>>>>> <ei8fdb at ei8fdb.org> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> Hi Harlo,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link, I've downloaded and installed v 0.3-RC1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This time PK crashes, once it starts the steg process. It
>>> happens in
>>>>>>> all cases (1. take photo, 2. enter message, if I do 3. enter
>>> secret or
>>>>>>> not, then 4. start the steg process).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have uninstalled, reinstalled, and no difference. Is there any
>>>>>>> logfile created so I can try and find out more?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I get some time this evening, I can make a short video.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the meantime, to cover the observations from yesterday:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TASK 1:
>>>>>>>>> Issue 1: Cannot get to this step to check as PK crashes.
>>>>>>>>> Issue 2: Cannot get to this step to check as PK crashes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TASK 2:
>>>>>>>>> Issue 3: Still present
>>>>>>>>> Issue 4: Still present.
>>>>>>>>> Issue 5: Cannot get to this step to check as PK crashes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Razr i UE has an Intel Atom CPU (Android 4.1.2. Android was
>>>>>>> ported by the nice people in Intel :) ), and from experience some
>>>>>>> applications are not compiled for it, BBC iplayer and Firefox from
>>>>>>> memory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess if PK installs, and *used* to run (partly) this couldn't
>>> be
>>>>>>> the issue...?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Bernard
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 21 Apr 2013, at 14:13, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apologies it's taken me so long to get this finished but I've
>>> been
>>>>>>> busy with less interesting things.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This walkthrough has been done with Pixelknot (0.3) on a
>>> Motorola
>>>>>>> Razr i (unrooted) device running Android 4.1.2.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've used two tasks which I think would reflect "normal" usage
>>> of
>>>>>>> an app like this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TASK 1: Embed message in preselected picture, use a password
>>> and
>>>>>>> then send it via Dropbox.
>>>>>>>>>> TASK 2: Embed message in preselected picture, use no password
>>> and
>>>>>>> send it via e-mail.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I may have made some assumptions here that may be incorrect.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some of the 5 issues I found may be bugs like I mentioned. if
>>> so, I
>>>>>>> am happy to file them if needed. For the other issues, I've given
>>> some
>>>>>>> possible solutions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Firstly, I'd suggest you have a look at the video here:
>>>>>>> https://vimeo.com/64487693 and then take a look at the issues
>>> below.
>>>>>>> It'll make more sense.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (Sorry for the continuous auto-focus on the camera, but the
>>> light
>>>>>>> was terrible!)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ====================
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TASK 1: Embed message in preselected picture, use a password
>>> and
>>>>>>> then send it via Dropbox.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. At min 1:38: The user is offered two "trusted apps" to share
>>> the
>>>>>>> image with.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Was there a decision to use just these two? If the user doesn't
>>>>>>> want to use Bluetooth or Dropbox, it is not clear how to share
>>> them
>>>>>>> with other tools. The arrow in the top right hand-side is the only
>>> way
>>>>>>> to find the other apps you can use.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SOLUTION: Display applications most used to share on that
>>> "Share
>>>>>>> with..." screen. Or possibly display more options eg e-mail, SMS.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. At min 1:59: The user is notified that the upload to Dropbox
>>> has
>>>>>>> failed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how the file which has been steg'ed is handled.
>>> The
>>>>>>> error message from Dropbox (seen at 2:06) says "We couldn't upload
>>>>>>> '136653636941_embed.jpg'. It may have been moved, deleted, os is
>>>>>>> located on an SD card that is currently unavailable."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SOLUTION: If this is a bug, then I am happy to get it logged
>>>>>>> properly. Maybe it's a bug just with Motorola Razr i phones?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ====================
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TASK 2: Embed message in preselected picture, use no password
>>> and
>>>>>>> send it via e-mail.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 3. At min 2:29: The user is able to advance passed message
>>> entry
>>>>>>> window, but is required to enter message.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is the message optional? If not, then the user should not be
>>> able
>>>>>>> to advance without entering message. It is really good that you
>>> guys
>>>>>>> have caught the possibility of them not entering a message by
>>> giving
>>>>>>> them the warning ("Oh no, it looks like you haven't entered a
>>> secret
>>>>>>> message yet. Please enter one.") but it would be even better if
>>> they
>>>>>>> didn't see that warning.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SOLUTION: Give clear indication that the message not optional,
>>>>>>> therefore removing the necessity of the "Oh no..." warning.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 4. At min 2:59: How does the user advance to the next screen?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When the user has entered the secret message, they are given no
>>>>>>> clear way to advance to the next screen. On inspection there are
>>> two
>>>>>>> options:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. navigation dots.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. The password entry field icon.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since both bring the user to the same place, it might be a good
>>>>>>> idea to remove one of them? Is there a recommended next step? Ie.
>>> do
>>>>>>> you want the user to enter password for the image?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SOLUTION: If the password entry field icon was removed, and the
>>>>>>> user swiped R-to-L they would be prompted with the:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Wait! You haven't set a password for your image. Are you sure
>>> you
>>>>>>> want to continue?. No set my password OR Yes, continue." message.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At this point, they would either continue, or enter the
>>> password.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5. At min 4:35: The file has been attached and sent by e-mail
>>>>>>> successfully, however the file size is 0 B.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I guess this is a bug?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SOLUTION: If this is a bug, then I am happy to get it logged
>>>>>>> properly. Maybe it's a bug just with Motorola Razr i phones?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ====================
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hope they are of help. I'm looking forward to seeing the next
>>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Bernard
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Apr 2013, at 00:29, Mark Belinsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for the feedback Bernard! The best UI of a
>>> security
>>>>>>> app is quite the compliment!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do send comments. We're tweaking and strengthening the app
>>> now, so
>>>>>>> they'd be helpful. There are known issues with the galaxy s3 and
>>> we're
>>>>>>> trying to test for bugs across a wide range of models.
>>>>>>>>>>> ~Sent from my mobile. Please excuse any typos or terseness.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - --------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Bernard / blueboxthief@#guardianproject
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb
>>>>
>>>> IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Sent from my tiny electronic gadget. Please excuse my brevity and (probable) spelling mistakes.
>>
>
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Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb
IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org
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