[guardian-dev] Pixelknot v0.3-rc1
Nathan of Guardian
nathan at guardianproject.info
Fri Apr 26 10:24:11 EDT 2013
MMS was working for us as well here in the states, at least with short messages.
Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb <ei8fdb at ei8fdb.org> wrote:
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>Just to update: I have managed to get PixelKnot installed on a Samsung
>Galaxy SIII and a Motorola Razr i, and managed to steg, send an image
>via e-mail and then desteg it on the other device.
>
>Small success. I'll do more testing when I have time.
>
>thanks,
>Bernard
>
>
>On 26 Apr 2013, at 13:56, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote:
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>> Hi Abel,
>>
>> Thanks. So the problem may not have been device processor
>architecture?
>>
>> I just need to find someone to test it with :)
>>
>> Bernard.
>>
>>
>> On 26 Apr 2013, at 13:35, Abel Luck wrote:
>>
>>> The build your running now is a debug build, whereas I think the
>>> previous was a release build.
>>>
>>> It is possible that could explain the discrepancy. I suppose I
>should
>>> upload a release build instead, since that's closer to the actual
>build
>>> that users will get.
>>>
>>> ~abel
>>>
>>> Bernard Tyers:
>>>> Hi Abel,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for sending this.
>>>>
>>>> I've uninstalled the rc-1 version and installed rc-2.
>>>>
>>>> I can't say why, but from a really quick test PK is not (yet!)
>crashing. I have uploaded a photo to Flickr and to dropbox
>successfully.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't had a chance to desteg them yet, but certainly so far its
>working.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I haven't installed/uninstalled anything (apart for rc-1) since I
>tested it before, so I can't say what went wrong.
>>>>
>>>> I'll test it more thoroughly this weekend.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Bernard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Abel Luck <abel at guardianproject.info> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bernard,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please uninstall PixelKnot from your device, then download the new
>>>>> version from this page:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://rink.hockeyapp.net/apps/124e7acf873890cf33afcc2087f831e4/
>>>>>
>>>>> It is exactly the same as the old version, but includes reporting
>code,
>>>>> so hopefully we can troubleshoot those crashes.
>>>>>
>>>>> When it does crash, restart the app, it will ask you to submit the
>>>>> information, please click yes :)
>>>>>
>>>>> ~abel
>>>>>
>>>>> Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb:
>>>>>> Abel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you could I'd appreciate it. That'll answer why the rc-1
>version
>>>>> is crashing on my Intel processor UE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> Bernard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2013, at 15:36, Mark Belinsky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That seems like a pretty solid feature to have in the whole
>suite
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> @mbelinsky | guardianproject.info | phone: +1-347-466-9327 |
>ostel:
>>>>> 1003 | pgp: 0xEFBFA7278D8EFFDA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Abel Luck
>>>>> <abel at guardianproject.info> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ah, good to know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Shall I push a little patch to PK that adds a log sharing
>option?
>>>>>>> Jenkins would create a new test build right away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~abel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nathan of Guardian:
>>>>>>>> Alogcat no longer works for newer versions of Android that
>require
>>>>> new permissions or root for log access.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Abel Luck <abel at guardianproject.info> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bernard,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you install the app aLogcat [1], then after PK crashes you
>can
>>>>> open
>>>>>>>>> it up and send us the log file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~abel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1]:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jtb.alogcat&hl=en
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harlo,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll try and find log files, but I am not sure what extent
>>>>> Android on
>>>>>>>>> these devices log app crashes..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can certainly find logs for the issue where the steg'ed
>>>>> filesize is
>>>>>>>>> 0 B when its e-mailed as Kaiten creates a debug log.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 22 Apr 2013, at 23:48, Harlo Holmes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect it has to do with the architecture, but I would be
>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>> curious to see your logs. I don't have any devices like yours
>to
>>>>> test
>>>>>>>>> on right now, sadly. Do you have the capability to do log
>your
>>>>> output
>>>>>>>>> and send it to us in a text file or post it somewhere on
>pastebin?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Harlo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>> Research Fellow, Head of Metadata
>>>>>>>>>>> The Guardian Project
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> pgp: 0xA4469630
>>>>>>>>>>> twitter: @harlo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:54 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
>>>>>>>>> <ei8fdb at ei8fdb.org> wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Harlo,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link, I've downloaded and installed v
>0.3-RC1.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This time PK crashes, once it starts the steg process. It
>>>>> happens in
>>>>>>>>> all cases (1. take photo, 2. enter message, if I do 3. enter
>>>>> secret or
>>>>>>>>> not, then 4. start the steg process).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have uninstalled, reinstalled, and no difference. Is there
>any
>>>>>>>>> logfile created so I can try and find out more?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When I get some time this evening, I can make a short video.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In the meantime, to cover the observations from yesterday:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> TASK 1:
>>>>>>>>>>> Issue 1: Cannot get to this step to check as PK crashes.
>>>>>>>>>>> Issue 2: Cannot get to this step to check as PK crashes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> TASK 2:
>>>>>>>>>>> Issue 3: Still present
>>>>>>>>>>> Issue 4: Still present.
>>>>>>>>>>> Issue 5: Cannot get to this step to check as PK crashes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Razr i UE has an Intel Atom CPU (Android 4.1.2. Android
>was
>>>>>>>>> ported by the nice people in Intel :) ), and from experience
>some
>>>>>>>>> applications are not compiled for it, BBC iplayer and Firefox
>from
>>>>>>>>> memory.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I guess if PK installs, and *used* to run (partly) this
>couldn't
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> the issue...?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Bernard
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Apr 2013, at 14:13, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologies it's taken me so long to get this finished but
>I've
>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>> busy with less interesting things.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This walkthrough has been done with Pixelknot (0.3) on a
>>>>> Motorola
>>>>>>>>> Razr i (unrooted) device running Android 4.1.2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've used two tasks which I think would reflect "normal"
>usage
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> an app like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> TASK 1: Embed message in preselected picture, use a
>password
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> then send it via Dropbox.
>>>>>>>>>>>> TASK 2: Embed message in preselected picture, use no
>password
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> send it via e-mail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I may have made some assumptions here that may be
>incorrect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of the 5 issues I found may be bugs like I mentioned.
>if
>>>>> so, I
>>>>>>>>> am happy to file them if needed. For the other issues, I've
>given
>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> possible solutions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Firstly, I'd suggest you have a look at the video here:
>>>>>>>>> https://vimeo.com/64487693 and then take a look at the issues
>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>> It'll make more sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Sorry for the continuous auto-focus on the camera, but the
>>>>> light
>>>>>>>>> was terrible!)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ====================
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> TASK 1: Embed message in preselected picture, use a
>password
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> then send it via Dropbox.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. At min 1:38: The user is offered two "trusted apps" to
>share
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> image with.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Was there a decision to use just these two? If the user
>doesn't
>>>>>>>>> want to use Bluetooth or Dropbox, it is not clear how to share
>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> with other tools. The arrow in the top right hand-side is the
>only
>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>> to find the other apps you can use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> SOLUTION: Display applications most used to share on that
>>>>> "Share
>>>>>>>>> with..." screen. Or possibly display more options eg e-mail,
>SMS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. At min 1:59: The user is notified that the upload to
>Dropbox
>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>> failed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know how the file which has been steg'ed is
>handled.
>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> error message from Dropbox (seen at 2:06) says "We couldn't
>upload
>>>>>>>>> '136653636941_embed.jpg'. It may have been moved, deleted, os
>is
>>>>>>>>> located on an SD card that is currently unavailable."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> SOLUTION: If this is a bug, then I am happy to get it
>logged
>>>>>>>>> properly. Maybe it's a bug just with Motorola Razr i phones?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ====================
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> TASK 2: Embed message in preselected picture, use no
>password
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> send it via e-mail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. At min 2:29: The user is able to advance passed message
>>>>> entry
>>>>>>>>> window, but is required to enter message.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the message optional? If not, then the user should not
>be
>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>> to advance without entering message. It is really good that
>you
>>>>> guys
>>>>>>>>> have caught the possibility of them not entering a message by
>>>>> giving
>>>>>>>>> them the warning ("Oh no, it looks like you haven't entered a
>>>>> secret
>>>>>>>>> message yet. Please enter one.") but it would be even better
>if
>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> didn't see that warning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> SOLUTION: Give clear indication that the message not
>optional,
>>>>>>>>> therefore removing the necessity of the "Oh no..." warning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. At min 2:59: How does the user advance to the next
>screen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When the user has entered the secret message, they are
>given no
>>>>>>>>> clear way to advance to the next screen. On inspection there
>are
>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>> options:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. navigation dots.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The password entry field icon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since both bring the user to the same place, it might be a
>good
>>>>>>>>> idea to remove one of them? Is there a recommended next step?
>Ie.
>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> you want the user to enter password for the image?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> SOLUTION: If the password entry field icon was removed, and
>the
>>>>>>>>> user swiped R-to-L they would be prompted with the:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Wait! You haven't set a password for your image. Are you
>sure
>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> want to continue?. No set my password OR Yes, continue."
>message.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> At this point, they would either continue, or enter the
>>>>> password.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. At min 4:35: The file has been attached and sent by
>e-mail
>>>>>>>>> successfully, however the file size is 0 B.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess this is a bug?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> SOLUTION: If this is a bug, then I am happy to get it
>logged
>>>>>>>>> properly. Maybe it's a bug just with Motorola Razr i phones?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ====================
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope they are of help. I'm looking forward to seeing the
>next
>>>>>>>>> version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bernard
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Apr 2013, at 00:29, Mark Belinsky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for the feedback Bernard! The best UI of a
>>>>> security
>>>>>>>>> app is quite the compliment!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do send comments. We're tweaking and strengthening the app
>>>>> now, so
>>>>>>>>> they'd be helpful. There are known issues with the galaxy s3
>and
>>>>> we're
>>>>>>>>> trying to test for bugs across a wide range of models.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Sent from my mobile. Please excuse any typos or
>terseness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - --------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bernard / blueboxthief@#guardianproject
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org
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>>>>>>
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>>>> Sent from my tiny electronic gadget. Please excuse my brevity and
>(probable) spelling mistakes.
>>>>
>>>
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