[guardian-dev] Lavabit, then Silent Mail shuts down

Alan Miller dralanmiller at gmail.com
Fri Aug 9 12:41:24 EDT 2013



Time for the world to push point to point email and no longer use a server client model.



On 10 Aug, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Alan Miller <dralanmiller at gmail.com> wrote:

> Silent Circle has preemptively discontinued Silent Mail service to prevent spying.
> 
> We designed our phone, video, and text services (Silent Phone, Text and Eyes) to be completely end-to-end secure with all cryptography done on the clients and our exposure to your data to be nil. The reasons are obvious -- the less of your information we have, the better it is for you and for us…. (rest you can read on the website).
> 
> 
> So thats why my silent circle email no longer works !
> 
> Land of the free ?
> 
> 
> 
> On 10 Aug, 2013, at 12:29 AM, Dominik Schürmann <dominik at dominikschuermann.de> wrote:
> 
>> I really don't understand what's happening here. Are there more
>> information about Lavabits infrastructure and software setup?
>> 
>> When no keys are stored on their servers there would be no need to shut
>> it down like this. The same goes for Silent Circle's Mail system, as it
>> seems to use PGP.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Dominik
>> 
>> On 09.08.2013 18:05, Hans of Guardian wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is something to watch closely related to OStel.  Lavabit is a private mail service that was apparently good enough for Snowden.  They choose to shutdown rather than give in to demands that they are legally not allowed to talk about.  This is not only a problem in the USA, but all over the world.  
>>> 
>>> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/ed-snowdens-encrypted-e-mail-service-shuts-down-leaving-cryptic-message/
>>> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/in-wake-of-lavabit-shutdown-another-secure-e-mail-service-goes-offline/
>>> 
>>> In light of this, this is where the core idea for OStel has unique strength:  OStel should be as easy as possible for anyone to set up, with servers that federate so that people can call each other on different servers.  It would be great to see more dead simple recipes for setting up secure servers for all sorts of federating services like XMPP, email, etc.
>>> 
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