[guardian-dev] Lavabit, then Silent Mail shuts down

Natanael natanael.l at gmail.com
Fri Aug 9 12:59:17 EDT 2013


One example of precisely that is I2P with Bote mail. It probably needs
more external security review, but as far as I can tell it is pretty
secure.

It uses public crypto keys as addresses, and everything is encrypted.
DHT is used for mail distribution. I2P itself adds a layer of
anonymization.

2013/8/9 Alan Miller <dralanmiller at gmail.com>:
>
>
> Time for the world to push point to point email and no longer use a server
> client model.
>
>
>
> On 10 Aug, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Alan Miller <dralanmiller at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Silent Circle has preemptively discontinued Silent Mail service to prevent
> spying.
>
> We designed our phone, video, and text services (Silent Phone, Text and
> Eyes) to be completely end-to-end secure with all cryptography done on the
> clients and our exposure to your data to be nil. The reasons are obvious --
> the less of your information we have, the better it is for you and for us….
> (rest you can read on the website).
>
>
> So thats why my silent circle email no longer works !
>
> Land of the free ?
>
>
>
> On 10 Aug, 2013, at 12:29 AM, Dominik Schürmann
> <dominik at dominikschuermann.de> wrote:
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> I really don't understand what's happening here. Are there more
> information about Lavabits infrastructure and software setup?
>
> When no keys are stored on their servers there would be no need to shut
> it down like this. The same goes for Silent Circle's Mail system, as it
> seems to use PGP.
>
> Regards
> Dominik
>
> On 09.08.2013 18:05, Hans of Guardian wrote:
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>
> This is something to watch closely related to OStel.  Lavabit is a private
> mail service that was apparently good enough for Snowden.  They choose to
> shutdown rather than give in to demands that they are legally not allowed to
> talk about.  This is not only a problem in the USA, but all over the world.
>
> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/ed-snowdens-encrypted-e-mail-service-shuts-down-leaving-cryptic-message/
> http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/08/in-wake-of-lavabit-shutdown-another-secure-e-mail-service-goes-offline/
>
> In light of this, this is where the core idea for OStel has unique strength:
> OStel should be as easy as possible for anyone to set up, with servers that
> federate so that people can call each other on different servers.  It would
> be great to see more dead simple recipes for setting up secure servers for
> all sorts of federating services like XMPP, email, etc.
>
> .hc
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