[guardian-dev] ChatSecure

Lee Azzarello lee at guardianproject.info
Fri Aug 23 16:17:24 EDT 2013


I think you can violate the NDA from Apple since their developer
system was down for three point five weeks! DISCLOSURE!

-lee

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Billy Gray <wgray at zetetic.net> wrote:
> I can't violate the NDA that for god knows why they need it to give you
> specifics, but ChatSecure will be able to do what you want very soon if it
> were to update to certain new APIs.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Nathan of Guardian
> <nathan at guardianproject.info> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Lee Azzarello <lee at guardianproject.info> wrote:
>> >Is this true? I've never actually used ChatSecure because I don't
>> >carry around my iPhone.
>> >
>> >"For instance, iOS apps like Silent Circle and ChatSecure provide
>> >forward secrecy, but are synchronous messaging systems that only
>> >function when the app is in the foreground. If someone sends you a
>> >message after the app has been out of the foreground for two minutes,
>> >you just don’t get the message."
>> >
>> >https://whispersystems.org/blog/asynchronous-security/
>> >
>>
>> I think it is 10 minutes, but generally yes. iOS only allows long running
>> background services if your are "VoIP app" (in quotes because I am not sure
>> how they define VoIP app).
>>
>> Chris B has a design for a ChatSecure Push service, that would essentially
>> tell the app to wakeup if someone is trying to message them, and then it
>> could pull messages from a server side xmpp message queue, OR the push could
>> actually content the message itself. We could easily make this interop with
>> ChatSecure Android users.
>>
>> Also, I think iOS 7 changes some things wrt to background apps, but I am
>> not entirely sure how.
>>
>> +n
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