[guardian-dev] Key verification removed from TextSecure

Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb ei8fdb at ei8fdb.org
Fri May 31 06:33:28 EDT 2013


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What is the implications for the security and verification of the users SMS in this case?

To me that seems like: if the initial SMS is bogus, then the rest of the conversation can be bogus?

Is there any idea of the reasoning for this change? Technical, commercial?

I guess overall: how more or less secure is the user because of this change?


The only information I can find on TOFU (TUFU) is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dotdotike/Trust_Upon_First_Use
http://defcon.org/html/defcon-18/dc-18-speakers.html#
http://static.usenix.org/events/usenix08/tech/full_papers/wendlandt/wendlandt_html/index.html

anyone got any other info?

thanks,
Bernard


On 31 May 2013, at 00:07, Abel Luck wrote:

> TextSecure no longer supports the concept of "verified" and
> "unverified", instead Moxie has moved to this concept of an identity key
> combined with TOFU POP.
> 
> "There is no longer a concept of "verified" or "unverified."
>   Only "what we saw last time" and "different from last time."
> See:
> https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/commit/24fc93e9aeb5d0810eb9c7e7d79da019b84035f5
> 
> ~abel
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