[guardian-dev] Blackphone

[Peter Villeneuve]

Both really. But the major risk comes from it being a US corporation with
HQ in Maryland, not too far from you know who...
I find it hard to believe that Bullrun wouldn't target them too, specially
given their market share and the likely close relationships between the
principals and USG.


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Lee Azzarello <lee at guardianproject.info>wrote:

> Do you see the problem as Silent Circle's incorporation having been
> filed in the USA or that many of the partners are American nationals?
>
> -lee
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Peter Villeneuve <petervnv1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I agree that they'll likely continue to use Tivi and just rebrand it.
> > They're very good at FUD marketing and not so good at releasing their
> > complete source code.
> >
> > More importantly, SilentCircle suffers from a major Achilles heel that
> will
> > be difficult to overcome.
> > Quite simply, they're an American company, and that means they're
> subject to
> > National Security Letters just like Lavabit.
> > Plus, the CEO is a former Navy SEAL, which in itself means nothing, but
> does
> > hint at close ties to the "usual suspects..."
> > Yes I know they have Zimmerman and Callas on board, and while I would
> trust
> > them given their history, who's to tell me the company hasn't been
> > infiltrated à la Bullrun?
> > Who exactly is behind this company? Where did the millions in marketing
> come
> > from?
> >
> > Perhaps I'm being overly paranoid, but to me, nowadays, security/privacy
> and
> > US company in the same sentence sounds like an oxymoron.
> >
> > As usual, it all boils down to transparency and trust.
> > What are other people's thoughts on this?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:15 PM, ShootAKite at riseup.net
> > <ShootAKite at riseup.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I speculate Blackphone will be TiviPhone branded with Silent Circle
> >> similar to the current Silent Circle mobile app.
> >>
> >> my source:
> >> Existing Silent Circle app uses tiviengine
> >>
> >>
> https://github.com/SilentCircle/silent-phone-base/tree/master/silentphone/tiviengine
> >> http://www.tivi.com/en/tech/voipsoftcrypt.php
> >>
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