[guardian-dev] [Suspected Junk Mail] BitTorrent Bleep - another secure/private chat app

ghostlands at hush.com ghostlands at hush.com
Wed Sep 17 22:46:00 EDT 2014


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http://blog.bittorrent.com/2011/06/30/uchat-we-just-need-each-other/

They've actually been working on this in one way or another since
2011 or before.

The main problem of course being that is isn't open source, so
nothing they do and no effort they exert will actually create
trustable security. I think they started messing around with it
before the OSS/security correlation really broke the surface and
haven't really changed culture throughout development.

The Bitmessage dev channel was abuzz with this a few weeks ago too,
there's a bit more overlap there.

I'm sorry to say it, but if they don't decide to open the source I
hope someone decides to reverse engineer it because the general
idea is really intriguing.

There was also this guy a few years ago:
http://blog.technitium.com/2011/07/bitchat-peer-to-peer-instant-
messaging.html

Although he was setting himself up pretty badly by naming his
program "Bitch At" 9_9

~ghostlands


On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:41:35 -0100 "Josh Steiner"
<josh at vitriolix.com> wrote:
>Looks like BitTorrent is getting into the private communications
>game:
>
>http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/17/6338417/bittorrent-bleep-secure-
>chat-app-public-alpha-released
>
>"Bleep keeps messages encrypted for their entire ride, so
>theoretically only their sender and receiver should be able to see
>them."
>
>...
>
>"Bleep avoids that by sending its communications directly between
>the
>people who are talking, rather than relying on an intermediary.
>That
>said, there's still a matter of making that connection between two
>people in the first place, as they have to figure out where on the
>internet one another actually is. That's handled with a
>traditionally
>BitTorrent type of network that distributes the information across
>the
>phones and computers of people hooked into Bleep. BitTorrent says
>that
>this information is encrypted so that your computer's digital
>location
>won't be seen by anyone but the party you're actually looking for,
>and
>no one but the receiving party should even know who you're looking
>for
>either. Altogether, BitTorrent says that it would be "practically
>impossible" to gather metadata on who's talking to who."
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