[guardian-dev] Moving beyond XMPP

Nathan of Guardian nathan at guardianproject.info
Fri Dec 6 15:17:38 EST 2013


On 12/06/2013 12:13 PM, muschel wrote:
> this is my first mail to a mailing list, so i hope i'm doing everything
> right.

Perfect!

> a) Fix usability Bugs
> A lot of them are rather small, but together they are really annoying.
> Most of them are already in the Bugtracker. This includes stuff like:

We have been working through these for the last year, and are trying to
accelerate our efforts on them. We closed over 100+ "little" and "big"
issues in v12, and are doing the same on v13.

> -slow reconnection after changing from mobile to Wifi connection

This is highly dependent upon your server, connection, device and radio.
I personally don't have this problem on Nexus devices. It may also be an
issue with how we handle XMPP resume, timeouts, etc.

> -You cannot copy all messages

You mean like "Export chat" or "Save log"?

> -custom nicknames

Yes understood.

> -There is no easy way to forward contact adresses

What do you mean by this?

> -Better handling of open chats (maybe like WhattsApp, eg display open
> Chats and by clicking on "new message" go to the contact List)

Working on this...

> -Smiley pane should open over the keyboard
> -Include the Smileys again! No average WA user will search for extra
> packages and install those

Ha... well, happy you are a smily/emoji fan as I am. I wanted to make
them a plugin because Google now offers emoji in their own keyboard, and
so not everyone needs them. We will definitely find a way to feature our
"plugins and packs" from within the main app.

> -don't silently fail if you send a file to a another jabber client, that
> doesn't support otrdata

Good one... def need to handle this better.

> -It's not possible to resend invitations

Ok.

> -decrease memory usage

What is your ideal usage? When I look at other apps on my device, we are
not using significantly more then then.

> -and a lot more...

There will always be more.

> b) Adress lost messages
> I know about  XEP-0184, but as mobile connections are rather unstable
> and i often logon/logoff from Wifi it happens quite often to me, that  i
> don't  receive a confirmation.
> Of yourse i could simply copy the message and resend it (copying is not
> always possible....),  but this would mean that my Chatpartner receives
> those messages twice, which sometimes is seen as impolite.
> Also this requires user intervention and rechecking if a messages was
> received.

I agree we could make the app much smarter in this regard. Auto-resend,
ignore if already received, and re-sending delivery receipts would go a
long way to ensure all messages have been received on both sides.

Glad to have you on our list now. Please continue the dialogue!

+n


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