[guardian-dev] BitTorrent Bleep - another secure/private chat app

[Tim Bray]

Ricochet may be interesting, and you SHOULD be able to build a
no-metadata-leaks IM on Tor, but it wasn’t well-served by that horrible
story in Wired, which was all rah-rah cheerleading from the insider, no
external voices, full of silly cliches: “High-school drop-out defeats the
NSA!!!”    ricochet-im/ricochet is kind of quiet…

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Nathan of Guardian <
nathan at guardianproject.info> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> > So the ideal would be if Bleep also provided some kind of p2p proxy for
> > the
> > direct connections.  And of course, it needs to be open source to be
> > taken
> > seriously.
>
> They should have learned more from Twister: http://twister.net.co/ since
> they have thought about the metadata issue a lot:
>
> "twister is the fully decentralized P2P microblogging platform
> leveraging from the free software implementations of Bitcoin and
> BitTorrent protocols."
>
> The other news yesterday was about Richocet aka Invsible.IM, which is
> basically just TorChat evolved (P2P hidden service chat). Unfortunately,
> it has a very fragile binary protocol, and depends on the idea of
> massive scaling of Tor Hidden Services, which they were not designed to
> do:
>
> https://github.com/ricochet-im/ricochet
>
> Any comment or update from Briar folk about either of these systems?
>
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