[Ssc-dev] Fwd: ObscuraCam Comment

Andrew Senior andrew.senior at gmail.com
Fri Jul 29 13:12:33 EDT 2011


Yes, hard to respond without knowing what R's criticism really is.
Nobody would claim that Obscura Cam will be a complete solution to the
issues it's intended to address, and the current version is far from its
full potential, but I would think anyone who really understands what we're
trying to do would agree that it can address some of the issues and be a
component in a more complete strategy.
Andrew

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Harlo Holmes <harlo.holmes at gmail.com>wrote:

> I haven't followed the link, but I read the quoted comment inline.
> Assuming, that's all the commenter wrote, I feel the commenter is holding
> back from actually saying *why *he/she believes Obscura is an insufficient
> answer to the security question.  And I usually associate such terse
> negativity with snark.  However, I think Obscura opens up a space to talk
> about how burgeoning technologies come to bear on privacy, and how these
> battles are fought on multiple fronts simultaneously: technological, social,
> and infrastructural (which borders on the economic.)  In its current
> version, I believe Obscura tackles the issue on some of those fronts (partly
> technological, partly social), and in later iterations, we will charge into
> other fields as well.
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Bryan Nunez <bryan at witness.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This is just a heads up that I'm approving a snarky comment on the OVC
>> blog post about ObscuraCam.
>>
>>
>> http://openvideoconference.org/2011/07/the-securesmartcam-project-protecting-human-rights/
>>
>> Not sure when the comment will go up, but feel free to respond ;-)
>>
>> -b
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Bryan Nunez <bryan at witness.org>
>> Date: Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: ObscuraCam Comment
>> To: Ernie Zahn <ernest at openvideoalliance.org>
>> Cc: Benjamin Moskowitz <ben at openvideoalliance.org>, Sam Gregory <
>> sam at witness.org>, Nathan Freitas <nathan at freitas.net>
>>
>>
>> Hi Ernie,
>>
>> Yes of course post the comment.  One the goals of the project is to be as
>> transparent and in the public as possible.  We welcome criticism and
>> suggestions (even ones lacking in social tact).  Hopefully our negative
>> commenter won't find it beneath him or her to explain why it's a bad idea
>> and what we should be doing instead, since I assume we all share similar end
>> goals.
>>
>> I'm cc'ing Sam and Nathan, since I'm sure they've got thoughts as to how
>> to respond.
>>
>> Thanks for the heads up,
>> Bryan
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Ernie Zahn <
>> ernest at openvideoalliance.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Bryan,
>>>
>>> Thank you again for sending me the interview answers. The post went up on
>>> the 22nd and we recently received a rather negative comment from a reader:
>>>
>>>> I love the Guardian Project, but this is a laughably bad idea.
>>>>
>>>> This the opposite of progressive, this is grasping at straws. An
>>>> incredibly short-sighted approach to privacy.
>>>>
>>> In the interest of open discussion and not censoring, we'd like to
>>> approve the comment and let it be publicly visible. We were wondering if you
>>> or someone from WITNESS would take a moment to come up with a reply to the
>>> comment. Let me know if this possible. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ernie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bryan Nunez
>> Technology Manager
>> WITNESS
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bryan Nunez
>> Technology Manager
>> WITNESS
>>
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